Re: gEDA: xnf-gschem 20000416

[Ales Hvezda <ahvezda-at-NOSPAMseul_dot_org>]

Hi Steve Williams,


[snip]
>Uh, that's OK with me, but although there are only 6 symbols in the
>library now, I expect it to continuously grow to 300+ symbols. We're
>talking about doing real work here.
>
>And in the long run, this won't be the only design library to be like
>this. What if someone else desides to do the same job for Lucent or
>Altera FPGAs? It won't be long before you are facing a bunch of distinct
>libraries that total thousands of symbols.


	Okay okay, I'm convinced.  The ability to easily plug in extensions
is now on my todo list. :)


>
>I (and a colleague of mine) are offering to take some of the maintenance
>load off your hands, and the tools that support such a distribution of
>labor include a way to install libraries without editing configuration
>files. (Installers cannot reliably edit configuration files. I've tried,
>it doesn't work.)


	Well I was certainly not implying that the ./configure script
should edit the config file, just append (component-library "...") lines
(probably too simplistic).  Anyways, I'm not too fond of package
managers, even though I use dpkg and occasionally rpm.  Given the choice
between a source tarball and a .rpm/.dep, I will always pick the source
tarball and build it myself.  But whatever, this is a whole different
issue.  However I am quite fond of epkg/encap which allows me to keep
track of multiple version built from source packages.


>
>The means to upgrade gnetlist, namely drop the gnet-XXX.scm file in the
>right directory, is totally perfect. If only integrating libraries were
>so smooth.


	Hmmm... I'll keep thinking about the integration of libraries.  
I'm sure there's something that's doable.  


[snip]
>
>Thanks for the feedback. I'll fix these items. And I have some comments
>back:-) ...


	Cool, feedback.


>
>Puh-leese, add a way to set colors on text items and attributes. I'm facing
>drawing hundreds of symbols (with some help from co-workers) and writing
>them out and hand editing the .sym file to find the right number and set
>a color just to fix occasional goofs such as those seems a tad intimidating.

	
	Hmmm.. Well there is the Edit/Color... option which if you select
some objects (all types but components), then pick the Edit/Color...,
pick the color and finally hit apply the the color should change.
But I think you are talking about putting something like that on the add
text/edit text/add attribute/edit attribute dialog boxes?  In either case,
I'm willing to put it there as well, but that sort of change won't happen
till I get back from vacation (unless somebody else does it quickly).


>
>I guess in this case I can just delete these attribute and re-create them
>in the default green.  But...


	See above, the Edit/Color option should work.


>In case you're wondering, I'm trying to get gschem and Icarus Verilog
>together worked up to the point where I can hand a small set of RPMS
>to some Xilinx designer and expect some productive work out of him/her/it,
>and that includes writing symbols.


	Coolness.

								-Ales